Bullet Grain Vs Recoil

As far as weight of projectile, the. What makes the HSM Low Recoil rifle rounds so radically different, so unique, is they all feature full, standard weight-for-caliber hunting bullets! There is no compromise in performance and accuracy when compared to bullets found topping other low recoil ammunition. Just giving my take on the idea of using heavy vs. The 30 Nosler outperforms the 300 Weatherby in every. Cor-Bon 165-Grain PowRBall +P, $26. 850 inch) belted magnum case, with minimal body taper and a sharp, 25-degree shoulder. Do not be concerned about the longevity of your investment. For any self-defense weapon, manageable recoil is essential. 7 times as much tissue as a 9mm ball round. 30-30 Winchester, the. will generate a recoil energy about 10-1/2 ft. 309 rifle bullet which I use in Krags and Springfields, and some. The Remington Managed Recoil load (115 grain PSP bullet, MV 2710 f. 147 grain means that the bullet weight is different. com/watch?v=YgGjNQ_hhIQ My own personal te. 5mm) so it is slightly larger than the 9mm (. 357 Mag Training Ammo. With the Magsafe 68 grain, Glaser Safety Slug firing a 145 grain bullet at 1,350 fps with 587 fpe and Cor -Bon's 165 grain +P at 573 fpe (data from Cor-Bon), I think the issue of lower recoil. load with less ft. Last edited by melsauto; 12-10-2014 at 10:09 PM. 38 Special is more effective than a 147 grain 9mm. 992 inch in length, the. I found the best groups to be with a COAL of 2. a 122 grain has less recoil than a 154 grain while fired from my SKS rifle. There is no velocity floor anymore in SASS. 45 COLT RIFLE. Contributing Member;. Firing a 210 gr. The G19 does almost as well with 147 grain but the G26 performs poorly with 147. Given identical rifles, the. I found the best groups to be with a COAL of 2. /s) and a muzzle energy of 3,290 J (2,430 ft-lbs). Generally speaking, there is more powder (because there is more space. They both have some snap but nothing that isn’t manageable. Take a 308 firing a 180 grain bullet at 2600 fps with a 40 grain powder charge: The bullet momentum is 180*2600 = 468,000 gr-fps The powder momentum is 40 * 2600 * 1. With 125 grain, I don't feel hardly any recoil at all. 338 RCM drops just 6. Use this calculator to calculate the recoil on you rifles, handgun, and other firearms. There is a 6% difference in recoil force. Cast Performance LBT Series gas-checked cast bullets. Take that case from the 25-06, and imagine it with a slightly wider bullet. Go with the 147gr and you will be happy with the results. of energy are the only measure to be considered when comparing loads, IE: a 55 gr. The Action Pistol's 205-grain bullet produced a noticeably softer recoil impulse. a number of popular calibers: Similar Posts: Recoil Comparison. What I'm saying is that if you loaded a: 95 grain 9mm bullet with. #2 03-18-2009, 12:59 PM. What's the real-world difference between a 270 win. I've used Hornady 130gr SP, Barnes 130gr TSX and the Sierra 125gr PH. Used them up and recently bought a box of Winchester 40 165 grain FMJ. Firing a 210 gr. a 122 grain has less recoil than a 154 grain while fired from my SKS rifle. To get a modern saboted bullet out of the muzzle at 2,000+ f. I have a Taurus PT92AF that likes the heavier 147 better but the 124 has almost as tight of group. 40 cal is very snappy and you have it in a compact to boot. Recoil/Muzzle Rise « Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 07:34:20 pm » All things being equal, a lighter bullet will have less recoil in a given cartridge, 15 grns in hot cartridge like the. 1,309 fps MAX True Blue 19. Now, whether or not you could actually tell the difference is another matter. The Hornady Custom Lite load (120 grain SST bullet, MV 2675 f. 172" diameter and delivers a muzzle velocity of about 2550 fps (depending on the barrel length). 38 Special Information:. It shoots a 158 Grain FMJ bullet at a muzzle velocity of 1263 fps. General Firearms Forum. I figure in the TKO (Taylor Knock Out values) because I don't think lbs. Can someone provide some feedback on felt recoil of the 165 grain vs the 180 grain bullet. The word Parabellum comes from Latin, and it means "prepare for war. 180 both moving at the same velocity, same exact conditions a 180 will penetrate. CSWC bullets and Hornady 250-gr. While the cartridge is capable of using 325-550 grain bullets, the majority of. 465) loads run at 2980 fps. If you want a full load 250 grain 45 bullet go for it. I recently started shooting a Glock 41 in. a number of popular calibers: Similar Posts: Recoil Comparison. It is really soft in recoil, so you might find that it doesn't cycle your pistol. RE10x Super-sonic velocities at ranges greater than the 223 Remington and the 6. with 160-gr. ) generates a MPBR of 255 yards, but the light bullet sheds energy downrange, so the EKR is 200 yards. 862 fps Start TrailBoss 9. Most of the domestically manufactured commercial ammo in this guide use brass cases and Boxer primers, while the former Eastern Bloc churns out pallet. Wins For the 308. 5x55 Swedish Mauser with a reduced load of 140 hybrids going 2650 fps. If the bullet and the gun were of the same weight, the gun would recoil (freely) with the same velocity as the bullet. 700 Nitro Express develops an approximate average of 8,900 foot-pounds force (12,100 J) of muzzle energy with a 1,000 gr (65 g) bullet at 2,000 ft/s (610 m/s). 45-70 uses bullets that start at 300 grains weight, and the lone factory. Shots ranging from very close to maybe 140 yards. Don't rule out the 148 grain wadcutters. However handloaders can push the cartridge to generate as much as 15,000 foot-pounds (20,000 J) of energy in a modern bolt action, by using a 1,000 gr (65 g) bullet fired at 2,600. 308 is very close to the. 5 g) bullet. 9mm 147gr Load Data Bullseye. The longer bullet will take up more case and raise the chamber pressure. The grain gives us information of the projectile’s weight, or we can say it measures the mass of the actual bullet flies in the unit of “gr. For any self-defense weapon, manageable recoil is essential. com If recoil is a problem, you could add some weight to your Glock 20. ELD-X with much higher recoil and added expense. When it comes to shooting quickly, the low recoil of the 90-grain Critical Defense became an advantage. Hydra-Shok JHP low recoil: Federal 105 gr. 338 RCM drops just 6. 0] Charge. Okay, so the first part: what you gain and lose with lighter-for-caliber bullets compared to heavy-for-caliber bullets. I have shot a very light. 5 grains of #2400 (1355 fps) and 29. Example: I'm using a CZ-75 to fire a 90 grain 9mm bullet and a 150 grain 9mm bullet. Same powder, the 140d are more recoil, but slower vs faster isn’t what I am thinking about. We know it requires more energy to move a heavier bullet than a lighter bullet, right? Well, when we consider that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, we know a heavier bullet generally means more recoil than a lighter bullet. 5mm craze in the USA. 357 Mag Training Ammo. 7 grains for a case full (very bulky) and thus 70% was 13. 357mag Speer Gold Dot 135gr +P (53921), specially designed for snubnose guns. Recoil is noticeably higher. To document this, I tallied the. From 100 grain bullets, to 130 grains. I know of some people that are calling the 6. 2 inches at 300 yards when zeroed at 200 yards whereas Hornady's 200-grain SST load in the. 485 compared to the 130-grain. Hornady ® Custom Lite ® ammunition provides reduced recoil and muzzle blast from the most popular calibers, and puts the fun back into shooting for kids, women, and every shooter looking to keep recoil to a minimum while still enjoying the use of their favorite rifle. With wide variety of calibers from the standard to the unique, Aguila offers high-quality rounds that cycle flawlessly with remarkable consistency in both velocity and accuracy. 2300 fps with a 300 grain saboted bullet is all the recoil I care to enjoy at the bench. Of cartridges based upon the. 01 foot-pounds of force. I have used this load on medium-sized pigs, but shooters chasing larger ones might want to move up to the 139- and 149-grain bullets. The difference is the ratio of the weight of the bullet to the weight of the gun. Remington Managed Recoil 270 Winchester Ammo 115 Grain Core-Lokt Pointed Soft Point ammo review offers the following information; Remington Managed Recoil 270 Winchester ammo feature 115 Grain Core-Lokt Pointed Soft Point bullets. The theory is that at the same power factor, heavier bullets yield less acceleration (recoil). 56 combat load issue of the military and well known among recreational shooters. Hornady 44 Caliber 300 Grain Extreme Terminal Performance Hollow Point 50/Box Md: 44280 Hornady XTP And FMJ Handgun Bullets Demonstrate The Kind Of Accuracy That Lead Many Shooters To Adopt Them. 1650 fps / 393 ft. Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at A. ammo of modest pressure, pushing a 400-grain bullet at around 2,250 fps. 62×39 typically edging out the BLK with comparable 125 gr. Your sights will lift less at the same power factor with a heavy bullet vs. Another reason why these bullets are usually used for beginners is the lower cost. 30-06 cartridge loaded with a 180 grain bullet is going to be more effective against a big moose than a. 270 with 130 grain bullet and a 30-06 with 165 or 180 grain bullet there would be a noticeable difference. 0lb Rifle, 150gr bullet =17. We are out of this ammo, but check out these very similar deals. I did reduced recoil loads for a young shooter last year. 38 Super at the same power factor. In similar weight bullets, the 30-30 tends to outperform the little Russian cartridge. For instance, if 270-grain bullets are your choice for hunting with a. This round was designed to be the softest shooting minor power factor for USPSA and IPDA coming in at a power factor of 134. 2 lb-ft of free recoil at 21. Example: I'm using a CZ-75 to fire a 90 grain 9mm bullet and a 150 grain 9mm bullet. The contenders. Recoil in a 308 is usually around 12 or 13 ft-lbs, while it's 20+ ft-lbs in a 300 win mag. In order to compare loads, you must make them all to the same power factor. While the. 308-caliber shooters. The Leading Glock Forum and Community - GlockTalk. 44 Magnum or. When a 130-grain bullet exits the barrel of a nine-pound rifle in. 375 Winchester. Lee doesn't give velocities for this bullet but does for 270 grain jacketed bullets with 46. The grain is the weight, just make sure you note, the higher the grain-the higher the weight of the bullet and most likely higher amount of powder. The cartridge comes with a standard load 120-gr A-Max bullet with a muzzle velocity of 920m/s (3,020ft. 308 cartridge. However, the felt recoil is really soft. Debate; If this is your first visit,. Using that formula can show you what the actual physical recoil is for a particular gun and round. In December, we published the rules controlling choice of caliber and bullet weight for Palma competition. 300wsm has less felt recoil than 300 wm. a 5/8 oz slug has less recoil than a 7/8 oz slug fired from my 20 ga shotgun. 38 ft lbs of recoil force, the 147 grain bullet produces 3. Using heavier bullets solves the problem, but I have also found that there is a limit to the advantage of a heavier bullet. SWC and 140 gr. If I want lighter recoil loads for my handgun, I should. Barnes tested the Savage 110 ML-II smokeless powder muzzleloader using Barnes 250-grain MZ bullets, with excellent results. 260 Remington is well-known within the hunting circles, the 6. Only a handful of loads were listed with lighter or heavier bullet weights, such as 125, 200, or 220 grains. Contributing Member;. Do not be concerned about the longevity of your investment. Unless recoil is the overwhelming consideration, this is a top choice for those that are looking for a load with less recoil than the 230-grain 45 ACP. 41 Rem Mag was another one of those magnum rounds produced by the late Elmer Keith the same guy who created the 357 Magnum, and the 44 Magnum. 147 grain means that the bullet weight is different. A better comparison is to the 300 BLK loaded with a comparable 125 gr. These are all results with real shooting data and not accelerated charts. LBT-LFN @ 1,925 fps/M. Shown figures for a 45-70 with a 300 grain bullet loaded to 1,800 feel per second (in a 7. To get the "silent but deadly" effect that. That's why I say that the Kinetic Energy isn't important to the subject of recoil. 375 H&H Mag. another at 3300 fps there will be a 10% increase. The case is an original design with a rimless, bottleneck type case that fits a. 223 bullet and the heavier. The average weight of this bullet is roughly 20-40 grains and can be shot in rifles and pistols. Both are 6. Theoretically, it should work well, which it does. Thus the total recoil energy will be equal. 172" diameter and delivers a muzzle velocity of about 2550 fps (depending on the barrel length). 45 ACP 230 vs. While the. 5 to 155's in 308, where now the gap in recoil expands even more. Even so, recoil calculated in this manner is only the starting point in a comparison with the. From 9mm shotshell, to low recoil target wad cutters, to highly specialized high pressured hollow point self defense rounds, there is a 9mm round for every occasion. 9 fps in a 9. However handloaders can push the cartridge to generate as much as 15,000 foot-pounds (20,000 J) of energy in a modern bolt action, by using a 1,000 gr (65 g) bullet fired at 2,600. The Speer bullet is designed for lighter game typically deer. 5mm craze in the USA. I deally, a caliber would be selected which is capable of penetrating deep into the core or vital area of an assailant's body, without exiting. 45) so I like to shoot "hardball equivalent" loads in the bullet thrower. Physics dictates that bullet grain will play a role in recoil. If your order isn't in stock and shipped on time, we will. and a 270 Weatherby Magnum both with 24" barrels? I've been thinking of getting a 270 Weatherby for all-around hunting in North America and maybe Plains Game in Africa. It propels 90-grain bullets to 2,900 fps and 130-grain pills to 2,500 fps while exhibiting 50 percent less recoil than 7. 357 Mag Training Ammo. Example: I'm using a CZ-75 to fire a 90 grain 9mm bullet and a 150 grain 9mm bullet. Lots of bullet choices and brass is available. I have settled on 125 gr sjhp bullets for my 357 loads. Factory ammunition is widely available with a wide variety of bullet types and weights, and most is built to high accuracy standards, since that's what. This is a tough bullet that will hold up to high velocity. That said, the reward can be much greater if you take the time to really dial in the optimum load for your rifle. My experience has been with 175 gr 45 swcs and 155gr. Rifles chambered for magnum rounds usually have 2″ longer barrels, and yet more. 500 should be manageable with practice and working up to the top loads. A 70 grain change in a 110-grain 30 carbine bullet is HUGE. Speer may be the only major bullet maker offering a 44-caliber JHP intended primarily for the. Most of the domestically manufactured commercial ammo in this guide use brass cases and Boxer primers, while the former Eastern Bloc churns out pallet. The 7mm-08 Remington is a rifle cartridge that is almost a direct copy of a wildcat cartridge developed around 1958 known as the 7mm/308. In English, that means that heavy. Kimber 84M in. So, if you have a shooter that is recoil sensitive. In this case, the cartridges have a similar bullet weight and diameter with similar velocities with the 7. You will notice the difference. And with such bullets, it offers better sec-tional density (0. Another difference, of course, is recoil. For example, using common bullet weights in the. John, congrats on the G23, I love mine! If one does cycle the weapon faster than the other you'd never notice. Gold Dot Short Barrel. We have decided to use the 147gr vs 124gr because the reduced recoil from the heavier projectile greatly improves the shooters confidence. Deer at moderate range. Less recoil than many of the other favored competition cartridgesis another notable benefit to the 224 Valkyrie. The 9mm simply cannot push a 124-grain bullet to 1350 fps, while the 357 Magnum can push a 125-grain bullet to more than 1400 fps. 700 Nitro Express bullet and case with. 5mm Reloading Components. The larger hollow point on our. 308 loads — roughly 13 foot pounds with a 150 gr. It seems the 7mm TCU chamber was designed around the Hornady 154 gr SP. 30 caliber, bullet matching the on-game performance of a middle weight lead projectile is undoubtedly an appealing concept for the recoil sensitive hunter. 308 '78 till '93, and my. 1,662 MAX (for Sierra bullet) Enforcer 28. If you favor a heavy bullet and deep penetration, even the 3-inch-barrel 357 Magnum will best a 147-grain 9mm (tested previously) by some 150 fps, as the Winchester Silvertip demonstrates. J&K Bullet Casters said: ↑. Due to its wide popularity, nearly every rifle manufacturer in the world offers one or more rifle models chambered for the. Use with MMP HPH-12 sabot for best results. The Barnes bullet is typical of what they build. 5 gr NTX™ New Offering from Hornady The 17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) ammo has a 17 gr. , recoil can be reduced somewhat by switching from a maximum load of 80. So a higher grain can be louder, and also have more recoil/kick than a lower grain. The mathematical results showed that the 200-grain bullet had 2. 357 in a medium-frame, and still generates almost 100 ft-lbs. 34 grains to the dram, sixteen drams to the ounce, sixteen ounces to the pound. A high speed would be something like the Super Vel Super Snubbie load, which features a 90-grain bullet at over 1,200 real fps out of a snubbie, and recoil to go with it. 69 feet per second and a recoil energy of 6. 225 and initial velocity of 1600 fps, the. Re: Bullet weight vs. Developed by the Mauser corporation back in 1896 (I think), it is famous for having mild recoil, deadly lethality on even the biggest game animals, and superb accuracy potential. The cartridge comes with a standard load 120-gr A-Max bullet with a muzzle velocity of 920m/s (3,020ft. The 257 is less then a 100 fps faster with a 100 gr bullet as compared to the 127 in the 6. The nylon coating allows the bullet to reliably expand at low velocities, unlike traditional copper jacketed hollow points which normally require faster velocities in the. When shot from an all-steel 1911, the 155-grain. The 308 comes in with (7) bullet weights, both have the same range of kill (640yd) The 270 is a Long Action, The 308 is a Short Action. There are also some non +P 110 grain rounds, and some with pink on the box that are lower recoil, IIRC. He also gives loads for 280 and 300 grain jacketed bullets. 690 off the tip of the bullet. A 7-08 using a 120-grain bullet out of the same weight gun produces just over 12 pounds of recoil. Still, since the. 62x39 ammo is an intermediate rifle cartridge closely associated with the famously reliable SKS and AK-47 rifles that use it, this caliber is one of the most popular in the world despite its replacement in Russia by the 5. Thus the total recoil energy will be equal. 5 ft-lbs of recoil. The power floor for IDPA SSP and ESP is 125,000 (bullet weight times muzzle velocity) and slide speed. 284 caliber bullet function in entirely different ways, thus making a ballistic comparison between the two an apple-to-orange comparison. We use cookies to provide you with an improved user experience and to personalize content. Theoretically, it should work well, which it does. A 115-grain, 9mm bullet weighs. Due to the lightweight ARX bullet, it has a low-recoil signature for increased follow-up accuracy in critical defense situations. Remington Managed Recoil Ammo (20) INFO 023-L270W2 270 Win 115 gr. Also more recoil. Recoil: A lot of people intuitively believe there must be some link between bullet weight and recoil. With the best magnum performance in a standard action, the 30 Nosler was introduced as a more evolved cartridge option. I feel the recoil is the same for 110 gr bullets and 125 gr bullets. 40 cal is very snappy and you have it in a compact to boot. 45-70-500, which fired a heavier, 500 grain, (32. Switching to heavier bullets in the LBT lineup, a "moderate" load for the 395 grain bullet is 18. /s) and a muzzle energy of 3,290 J (2,430 ft-lbs). It's an excellent little gun, and functions well with bullets in the 250 to 320 grain range. 9mm Bullseye Competition Loads. 458 Win Mag factory ammo is normally offered with 325-500 grain bullets. felt recoil. +P (plus pressure) is loaded to higher pressure than standard ammo. Explanation of terms. There is no velocity floor anymore in SASS. Try 38 grains of AR2208 or 42 of AR2209 with these. Can someone provide some feedback on felt recoil of the 165 grain vs the 180 grain bullet. Talk about low recoil! Also, West Coast makes 200s in Round nose, TC/FP & SWC - I see no reason to use the heavier 230s or 255s w/ the current PFs in either IPSC or the lower IDPA PF. Loaded with Hornady ® SST ® bullets, Custom Lite ® ammunition. 284 diameter also have higher sectional density than. Bullet Grain: The grain of a bullet refers to the bullet’s mass / weight (projectile only, not the entire cartridge). Sierra makes a nice 120 grain Pro-Hunter bullet, too. The 7x57's 150-grain ELD-X bullet was just a step behind the 6. 81 feet per second and a recoil energy of 9. I have been told there are some advantages to the recoil of the lighter bullet. 010" off the lands. The amount of recoil felt by the human body is determined by velocity of the bullet, weight of the bullet , and weight of your gun. 458 Win Mag factory ammo is normally offered with 325-500 grain bullets. 5 ft-lbs of recoil. It typically fires a 270 grain bullet at 2,750 FPS generating 4,400 foot pounds energy. 56 combat load issue of the military and well known among recreational shooters. 308 Win; Recoil Comparison —. Lots of bullet choices and brass is available. 45 gives more consistent penetration. I have tried lighter and heavier bullets but the 124 has tighter groups. 308 better than the. 458 bullet at 2300 fps with 85 grains of powder and yields 72. Accuracy and low recoil seem to go hand in hand, so the choice became somewhat obvious. 0 grains of H4350. Hodgdon has three separate tabs under the DATA menu of the website’s main page to help in low recoil loading. This combination of heavier bullets with heavier powder charges significantly increases the recoil of the. You can expect velocities of 2600-2700 fps with 140 gr bullets in the 260 Remington. Recoil is softer than 155 or 165 grain rounds, the bullet retains about 100% of its weight, and reliably expands to. 270 with a 130 grain bullet, the. 4 fps: 300 Win. Hoorayebay Sharpshooter. Other pistol/shotgun powders can be used as long as it is a flake powder, but 800X works well, right from a minimum of three grains up to a twelve grain maximum. Twist rate of the barrel is the major deciding factor in which bullets to use, 1:10 being the most popular as it is sufficient to stabilize up to 100-gr. Fired in full-sized pistols such as 1911s, the. 44 foot-pounds of force when shot from a similar-weight, all-steel Colt Delta Elite. 24 at Lucky Gunner. on some of the larger game hunts and I'd load 150 or 160 gr. 700 Nitro Express bullet and case with. Install a softer recoil spring. It does tend to give me a headache after 10-15 shots though! DJ_Squizzy, Nov 2, 2012. 270 bullets Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:21 pm A 270 with a 130gr bullet is THE load for whitetails. this is not true if I shoot reduced recoil ammo however. Moving a 200 grain bullet forward requires 200 gr recoil backwards. Your sights will lift less at the same power factor with a heavy bullet vs. Theoretically, it should work well, which it does. You will notice the difference. but higher TKO rating. In order to match the ballistic performance of the heavy 7mm bullets, a 210gr,. For instance, the 300 Win Mag commonly uses bullets in the 150-210 grain range with 150 grain, 165 grain, 180 grain, and 200 grain bullets being most common. Other factors that can alter perceived recoil include barrel length, gun weight and design, and the shooter’s grip and stance. Ed, never tried the 125 gr. Remington factory ammo previously offered 185- and 220-grain PSP Core-Lokt bullets. We have decided to use the 147gr vs 124gr because the reduced recoil from the heavier projectile greatly improves the shooters confidence. Use this calculator to calculate the recoil on you rifles, handgun, and other firearms. Barnes tested the Savage 110 ML-II smokeless powder muzzleloader using Barnes 250-grain MZ bullets, with excellent results. 285 inch bullet on a. The Federal Premium Personal Defense line is more powerful and complete than ever, with loads built for every shooter and any encounter. Heavier bullets have more recoil. I've killed countless deer in the past with the 125-130gr bullets from the 30. 38 Special is more effective than a 147 grain 9mm. Since most 147 grain ammo is subsonic, it would make sense to use that in a suppressed carbine. 147 gr bullets at PF 130, it felt all the world, to me, that the heavier. ” H4895 has proven to be a versatile powder that performs superbly at lower powder charges. A bullet that is 125gr and leaves a 3 inch barrel at 800fps would have a sharper perceived recoil than the same bullet at the same speed leaving an 8 inch barrel. Only a handful of loads were listed with lighter or heavier bullet weights, such as 125, 200, or 220 grains. her rifle liked a lot of jump. Same powder, the 140d are more recoil, but slower vs faster isn't what I am thinking about. 45-70-500, which fired a heavier, 500 grain, (32. If one is a seasoned sixgunner along the lines of the. Talk about low recoil! Also, West Coast makes 200s in Round nose, TC/FP & SWC - I see no reason to use the heavier 230s or 255s w/ the current PFs in either IPSC or the lower IDPA PF. 1,840 max (Sierra bullet) ----- 250-255 Grain Lead SWC. To reduce the recoil, you must reduce projectile weight, or powder charge, or both. Nice soft gentle recoil. 57 Mauser based off three grain types for muzzle velocity are 3,000 ft/s (139 gr), 2,600 ft/s (162 gr), 2,500 ft/s (173 gr RWS HMK), and 2,300 ft/s (173 gr Military load). Light loads referring to the kick, or a mild load. 81 feet per second and a recoil energy of 9. The other very fine bullet and my second choice is the Hornady soft nose 265 grainer. It's now easy to calculate the recoil speed of the rifle (v R)in feet/second:. Remington Core-Lokt is ideal for the hunters with a desire for filling their deer tags. The long, light, and fast projectile hits with 793 foot-pounds of energy thanks to its 2,694 fps muzzle velocity, which is about 200 fps faster than the other rounds we tested. For two decades, big bore had meant anything over. 204 and 62 grainers in the. 5mm Bullets. The first is titled “ H4895 Reduced Rifle Loads. a 5/8 oz slug has less recoil than a 7/8 oz slug fired from my 20 ga shotgun. 45-70-500, which fired a heavier, 500 grain, (32. 0 grains of WW296 (1394 fps). 243 ammunition is available with bullet weights ranging from 55 grains (3. , you'd have to shoot Hornady's 200-gr. One ounce would be 437. 38 Super at the same power factor. Lots of bullet choices and brass is available. A lighter bullet will have less recoil because there is less resistance to move the bullet forward (equal and opposite action law). But may do so if I can't get the. 450 Bushmaster vs. 308 Win; Recoil Comparison —. 5 grains, which is useful to know if you deal with shotguns much as shot c. The other 9mm Syntech ammo launches a 115-grain bullet at 1174 fps from my Glock, and the Action Pistol's 150-grain bullet had much less recoil. 308 and 6BR chamberings offer good barrel life, but the 6BR uses 15-18 grains less powder, saving you money. a 5/8 oz slug has less recoil than a 7/8 oz slug fired from my 20 ga shotgun. The 308 comes in with (7) bullet weights, both have the same range of kill (640yd) The 270 is a Long Action, The 308 is a Short Action. Warning for California Residents. 300wsm has less felt recoil than 300 wm. The grain gives us information of the projectile's weight, or we can say it measures the mass of the actual bullet flies in the unit of "gr. I have used it on whitetail deer with excellent results. Recoil is noticeably higher. Loaded with Hornady ® SST ® bullets, Custom Lite ® ammunition. 357 bullet size range. 285 inch bullet on a. 0 grains of IMR4198 , with a 125 grain nosler balistic tip bullet. Shok federal premium 243 WIN 55 Grain - So urce. 24 at Lucky Gunner. 270 with 130 grain bullet and a 30-06 with 165 or 180 grain bullet there would be a noticeable difference. N120 is excellent if you can find it (call Jeannie Bolda at Kaltron), but Accurate 2015 and Reloder 7 both have the ability to produce similar external ballistics. I think the recoil savings really comes from the fact that with the. Which is which? Thanks, Robb M. Other pistol/shotgun powders can be used as long as it is a flake powder, but 800X works well, right from a minimum of three grains up to a twelve grain maximum. 690 off the tip of the bullet. The bullet, powder and velocities on one end equal the masses and velocities on the other. Wilson Combat loads the 90-grain Hornady XTP bullet in the. 1 g) bullet fired from the same gun might only achieve 400 foot-pounds force (540 J) of muzzle energy, depending upon the manufacture of the cartridge. Recoil was mild, unlike the 195-grain Berger. For handgunners, that means as soon as the bullet begins moving down the barrel, recoil begins pushing the barrel upward. And I already have students liking the round. I have used 2 different 235 grain bullets in the 375 H&H. 308 Winchester shooting 155gr bullets at 3000 fps, which most shooters find tolerable. #3 you can control under recoil to quickly follow up # # 150 grain bullet at 770 fps and a muzzle. I have 2-257 Weatherby's and a ULW 6. a lighter bullet. 460; the 140-grain 6. 608slug-ft/sec we would have a 147gr bullet going about 930fps. Common Bullet weight in Grains (. Nice soft gentle recoil. 7 times as much tissue as a 9mm ball round. 375 caliber as. I found the best groups to be with a COAL of 2. 01 foot-pounds of force. In a pistol as heavy as a 1911, a 9mm has very little felt recoil. Most people attest that. 45-70: Stoutly constructed real rifle bullets available in weights up to 500 grains give. For those using the metric, 1 grain is equal to 15. Now I need some help with the best loads to hunt and plink with 405 gr. N120 is excellent if you can find it (call Jeannie Bolda at Kaltron), but Accurate 2015 and Reloder 7 both have the ability to produce similar external ballistics. Or because it works, handloaders can opt- as I often do- to build lower-velocity. 5 grains, which is useful to know if you deal with shotguns much as shot c. 7) and that is your starting load. 5-300, comparing the 2 is like comparing the 257 and 25-06. 308, with heavier loads (350 grain bullet at 2100-2200 fps) the 45-70 becomes quite a handful off the bench, with recoil similar to a. 308W with its scope set to shoot the 150 gr hunting bullet 2" high at 100 metres and it is on the crosshairs at 220. It's an excellent little gun, and functions well with bullets in the 250 to 320 grain range. 45 ACP with the goal of a 165 power factor: a 230-grain bullet at 718 feet-per-second (fps) has the same recoil as a 200-grain bullet at 825 fps or a 185-grain bullet at 892 fps (Table 1). Bullet selection for the 243 is dancing above and below the sweet spot for the majority of rifles. 9mm 147gr Load Data Bullseye. 2 inches at 300 yards when zeroed at 200 yards whereas Hornady's 200-grain SST load in the. My only experience is when I went from 115 gr bullets at PF 130 to. Recoil: A lot of people intuitively believe there must be some link between bullet weight and recoil. Premium Personal Defense. When I shoot. If you favor a heavy bullet and deep penetration, even the 3-inch-barrel 357 Magnum will best a 147-grain 9mm (tested previously) by some 150 fps, as the Winchester Silvertip demonstrates. 24 at Lucky Gunner. I prefer the slight increase in recoil of the heavier round to the flashbang. Install a softer recoil spring. 308 Winchester rifles with a barrel switch. It's more but not as much as the mass and recoil would lead you to believe. real world weapon: Cor Bon 90 gr. If you are shooting deer-sized critters or less, go with the 150. We know it requires more energy to move a heavier bullet than a lighter bullet, right? Well, when we consider that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, we know a heavier bullet generally means more recoil than a lighter bullet. If you look at 9mm vs 45acp in pistols, you'll notice that despite the fact that 45 is a huge heavy bullet (about 2x mass of a 9mm) with sizeable recoil it really doesn't pack that much more energy over the 9mm. 690 off the tip of the bullet. 7 time as much tissue as a 9mm 124 jhp that expands. RN 1000rds Reman, PRICE $201. The 7x57 Mauser has become a popular hunting rifle for shooters, and has been used by militaries such as the Spanish government. 2 inches at 300 yards when zeroed at 200 yards whereas Hornady's 200-grain SST load in the. 45 230 grain "non +P" round. Other features of the website include a very active forum and member photo galleries to upload photos of their latest game trophy or their newest handgun in the collection. Barnes T-EZ. For shots out to 200 yards, your deer is never going to notice the difference, but for longer shots, you'll be better off sticking with standard-velocity loads (right). Contributing Member;. Here’s how the 6BR stacks up vs. It is really soft in recoil, so you might find that it doesn't cycle your pistol. 5 Grendel can achieve at magazine length are also an advantage with the 224 Valkyrie. 308 Win; Recoil Comparison —. Common Bullet weight in Grains (. J&K Bullet Casters said: ↑. 262 ounces, half the weight of the 230-grain bullet. 260 Remington and 6. TrailBoss 6. 45-70: Stoutly constructed real rifle bullets available in weights up to 500 grains give. CSWC bullets and Hornady 250-gr. Recoil is straight backward. Manageable recoil without a significant reduction in performance is the top selling point for these cartridges. 44 Special, which measures about. 5 Creedmoor has the upper hand there. The theory is that at the same power factor, heavier bullets yield less acceleration (recoil). 38 bullet now. Okay, so the first part: what you gain and lose with lighter-for-caliber bullets compared to heavy-for-caliber bullets. Ed, never tried the 125 gr. 285 inch bullet on a. Your sights will lift less at the same power factor with a heavy bullet vs. 44 magnum load. , 30-06 or 300 Win. 44 Special, etc. Still kicked ass in the wind. When talking about bullet kinetic energy, the word muzzle energy is often brought up. 38 Special Information:. If you use a heavier bullet AT THE SAME POWER FACTOR (momentum) as a lighter bullet, the heavier bullet will travel slower, and the recoil impulse will be less. and a 270 Weatherby Magnum both with 24" barrels? I've been thinking of getting a 270 Weatherby for all-around hunting in North America and maybe Plains Game in Africa. Nevertheless, sometimes more is more. The Advantage you gain is in the increased velocity of the 115 grain, a better temporary wound cavity and better expansion. The Hensley and Gibbs #68 style 200 grain Semi-Wadcutter seems to be the most popular. Firing a 210 gr. Recoil: A lot of people intuitively believe there must be some link between bullet weight and recoil. A 70 grain change in a 110-grain 30 carbine bullet is HUGE. That's a big hammer and the projectile managed to maintain 100 percent of its mass while expanding to almost twice its diameter. Just a guess but if you shoot 40 grain bullets in each it would be very close to the same. This is more than ten times the average recoil from a. My only experience is when I went from 115 gr bullets at PF 130 to. she has a savage axis 308. Thet 4" Service Six would probably do real good with 125 gr bullets. In comparison, the 135-grain 10mm bullet will have a recoil velocity of of 15. When comparing the recoil of the same bullet weight in different calibers, the smaller caliber produces less recoil, which is greatly influenced by requiring less gunpowder. 284 bullet, an increased weight that requires 15-20% more muzzle energy to get the same muzzle velocity). I have used it on whitetail deer with excellent results. Since there’s so much overlap in their common bullet weights, rifles for both cartridges typically use a 1:10″ rifling twist. The 1895 Marlin firing a light load consisting of a 300 grain bullet at 1565 f. 40 S&W Syntech load uses a 165-grain bullet and it speeds along at 1091 fps from my S&W M&P. Still, since the. 284) bullets with a small increase in case length. 38 Special round can argue. 270 Winchester at 3100 fps, 14 ft-lbs of recoil is generated. With wide variety of calibers from the standard to the unique, Aguila offers high-quality rounds that cycle flawlessly with remarkable consistency in both velocity and accuracy. com If recoil is a problem, you could add some weight to your Glock 20. When a 130-grain bullet exits the barrel of a nine-pound rifle in. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Just giving my take on the idea of using heavy vs. 50 caliber 250 grain MZ bullet has an advantage during low-velocity expansion. 40 S&W, has a decided snap to it, what I call recoil impulse, it is sharp and sudden. Recoil/Muzzle Rise « Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 07:34:20 pm » All things being equal, a lighter bullet will have less recoil in a given cartridge, 15 grns in hot cartridge like the. It is really soft in recoil, so you might find that it doesn’t cycle your pistol. 308 vs 270 recoil on a ruger American and comparing it to the same weight rifle in 270 Win shooting a 130 grain bullet at 3100 fps, here are the recoil amounts:. vs the lighter bullet with a large fast snap. +P (plus pressure) is loaded to higher pressure than standard ammo. Gun Tests Grade: A. The bullets used in this simulation were the 265 grain FTX for the. 0 grains with a 155 grain lead bullet. Cartridge Type: Handgun Height: 1. Hornady makes a 6. Hydra-Shok JHP: Federal 147 gr. A 150gr bullet has a higher ballistic coefficient and will carry very well and retain its energy out farther. Using heavier bullets solves the problem, but I have also found that there is a limit to the advantage of a heavier bullet. 38 Special Pistol and Handgun Ammo" to the Heavy 158 grain plus P. The other very fine bullet and my second choice is the Hornady soft nose 265 grainer. she has a savage axis 308. standard pressure 158 v/s 125 jhp which has greater felt recoil, what has more recoil 110 grain or 158 grain, what has more recoil 138 grain fmj or 158 grain lrn, whichone has most recoil 125gr or158gr bullet in same wt. The ammo you mention weighs 90gr (. Initially, three loads will be available in the 325 WSM. This round was designed to be the softest shooting minor power factor for USPSA and IPDA coming in at a power factor of 134. Most of the domestically manufactured commercial ammo in this guide use brass cases and Boxer primers, while the former Eastern Bloc churns out pallet. For instance, the. This combination of heavier bullets with heavier powder charges significantly increases the recoil of the. For more detailed, 1 grain is equal to 1/7000th of a pound. In this case, the cartridges have a similar bullet weight and diameter with similar velocities with the 7. 1,496 start (Sierra) True Blue 22. Sellier & Bellot. I have shot a very light. This is a discussion on Help me understand bullet weights vs recoil within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I am trying to understand some things. RN 1000rds Reman, PRICE $201. The recoil difference between factory loaded 115 grain and 147 grain is less in the 115 grain. 350L with 165 grain FTX and an initial velocity of 2100 fps, the 30-30 with a 170 grain flat point and the. 62×39 typically edging out the BLK with comparable 125 gr. As with all hyper-performance magnum cartridges, the 26 Nosler can be a little more exacting to reload than less over-bored rounds. 1 g) bullet fired from the same gun might only achieve 400 foot-pounds force (540 J) of muzzle energy, depending upon the manufacture of the cartridge. with its bigger powder capacity. 180-grain 27 foot pounds: 14. Do not exceed 45 grains 5744. 270 pushing a 150gr at 3000fps will be essentially equal to a 30-06 pushing a 150 gr at 3000 fps. However, I saw other loads even lighter, so I started with 10. The heavier bullets have more recoil therefore they'll have a higher point of impact. , with heavy, slow-moving bullets, the revolver's muzzle actually has to be pointed noticeably down so the bullet exits when recoil brings it up to level. Mar 21, 2011 #6. The energy of the bullet is only a sub issue of the acceleration of the bullet when the gun is fired. Went out and shot about 30 rounds today in between snow storms. There is no velocity floor anymore in SASS. 257 Allen Magnum Left to Right: 25-06 Rem, 257 Weatherby Mag, 257 S. Recoil is softer than 155 or 165 grain rounds, the bullet retains about 100% of its weight, and reliably expands to. Can someone provide some feedback on felt recoil of the 165 grain vs the 180 grain bullet. 5-300 Weatherby, both are awesome cartridges for all the applications you mentioned. Remington Core-Lokt is ideal for the hunters with a desire for filling their deer tags. Just a guess but if you shoot 40 grain bullets in each it would be very close to the same. 257 Weatherby Magnum with a 100 grain bullet at a MV of 3600 fps has a MPBR of 337 yards. If you compare bullets of similar technology the larger bore shows proportional performance. 9mm Bullseye Competition Loads. 308 vs 270 recoil on a ruger American and comparing it to the same weight rifle in 270 Win shooting a 130 grain bullet at 3100 fps, here are the recoil amounts:. If I want lighter recoil loads for my handgun, I should. 338 Federal's 200-grain TBT drops 9. I point this out solely because it is the only valid defense the. 308 diameter bullet to get the same sectional density as a 175 grain. INFO 023-L7MM4 7mm Mag 140 gr. When I shoot. com/watch?v=YgGjNQ_hhIQ My own personal te. 180-grain 27 foot pounds: 14. 125gr bullet X 1000' per sec / 1000= 125 PF In my experience, heavier bullets at the same PF, have less recoil/flip than the lighter bullets. For handgunners, that means as soon as the bullet begins moving down the barrel, recoil begins pushing the barrel upward. Due to the lightweight ARX bullet, it has a low-recoil signature for increased follow-up accuracy in critical defense situations. 1,496 start (Sierra) True Blue 22. John, congrats on the G23, I love mine! If one does cycle the weapon faster than the other you'd never notice. 454 Casull, the. 8 mg, so the bullet has a mass (m B) of 9,720 mg, or 9. 40 S&W measures. Load recipes for 200 and 220 grain bullet loads are adequate. The first gun chambered for this cartridge, however, was actually the RPD light machine gun. 06 is the most amazing varmint hunting cartridge known to man hands down.